I'm basically against physical disipline -- I'm trying to teach my kids to talk things out and not to hit others, so it seems hypocritical to hit them. Children learn by watching what we do. However, yesterday my daughter darted out into the parking lot when we were leaving the grocery store. I yelled out to stop and she kept going so I grabbed her arm in a way that she could feel it, not too hard but definitely firm. I must admit that I wanted to surprise her and get her attention. So sometimes parents do need to redirect kids physically for their own safety.
Yes, i would agree, Erika. I am against physical discipline, don't think it makes a lot of sense to teach kids not to do things by hitting them. At the same time, redirecting kids physically can be necessary, especially when there are safety issues.
I have used spanking but only on the butt but I don't use it exclusively. I try all other options first and only use spanking when all else fails. I don't spank when I am angry where I might do more than I should. But to be honest now that my boy's are older 7 and 5 I rarely have to spank. They listen to me when I first tell them to go in their room or in a corner or what not. They are not voilent kids. They don't hit other kids or each other. And now when they were really little (like baby or 1 years old) I didn't spank them. It wasn't till they were old enough to know more about what's right and wrong before I did. And it's always been on the bottom. Most of the time I hurt more their feelings then their butts. My boy's are not afraid of me or my hubby. But then again I don't use spanking for everything and have rarely had to use it. I would say it's been over 6 months since I've had to spank either of them.
Personally I am against physical discipline. As one pp said, physical redirection such as grabbing an arm in a dangerous situation is an exception, that is not at all similar to slapping or spanking. I don't think it's necessary, and it is disrespectful and degrading. I wouldn't want someone coming up and hitting me if I were doing something wrong. I have a 2.5 year old and the idea that I can't communicate an idea to him without hitting him is wrong. He understands the word "no" and he understands time outs. They work well for him and I rarely have to use them because he understands consequences. I think that to exercise your control by exerting force is wrong, just my opinion. I also think that some people tend to cross the line, lose control, etc. and it is best to not even go there.
I agree with you 1000%. I was hit as a child and it caused me to loose trust in the person hitting me. I was hit until I was much too old to be hit and in places no one should be hit. At one point I remember thinking "This person is just hitting me out of anger." I was a slap to give someone else relief from their own pain and they transfered that pain to me. Now that I worked it out I don't hit my kids. At all--EVER. We communicate displeasure with words and found that it's just as or more effective.
If you tell your kids you love them and then hit them they will equate love with hitting and crossing all kinds of boundries that should be ultra firm. No--not even a slap on the butt. It's wrong.
To tell the truth, I wish I could resolve more issues without getting physical. My 3-year-old is a handful and about twice a week he gets a spanking. I honestly don't know how else to get through to him when he's pulled all the dirt out of my house plant for the umpteenth time and I've put him in time out for it over and over again. If you have pointers for me, PLEASE post!
Dr. Phil had a primetime special about discipline. I used it and it worked great. It was about finding your child's "currency" i.e. what is important to him. for example, when my daughter doesnt listen, or whatever it is....like pulling dirt out of a houseplant after telling them not to....I say Okay, I am taking "Teddy Bear" which is her favorite baby. and Usually she throws a huge fit, and the most important thing is TO TAKE IT!! dont cave in! Dr. Phil says to actually throw it away or to donate it. But I cant afford that. I toss it out the front door, and close the door. And say Sulley and Mike from Monsters Inc will pick it up and you get it back when they decide you are behaving. Now, to a then 3yr old, they believe it.....(the two monsters pull up in their fancy car...like on the show). She is five and still believes it. Then when she is not looking or paying attention, I slip outside and hide it somewhere she cant find it. Then when she starts behaving...like the next day, I get it, and put it on her bed or by the door or something creative like that. But the key is to take it, for a long time! When she asks about getting it back, I tell her she has to keep behaving. Make it your own, and what fits, but ANYTHING is better than getting physical. Pretty soon your son will not care that he gets spanked since it might happen often. But take his truck, toy, etc... and it will get his attention. And if he keeps misbehaving, keep taking more stuff.... One day I had my entire driveway full of toys. My neighbors thought I was nuts. I was so mad at them, I threw some of the toys and they broke...felt good to get out the frustration...and I can tell you they don't make me mad like that anymore!
Good Luck Sister!! Caralee
I just wrote a blog about this. The drawback is that they are going to after awhile smarten up and figure out that anything they enjoy you could use against them. So to protect themselves they will simply stop telling you what they like. They won't let you in on what their favorite toys or people are, what sports they enjoy, etc. I'm telling you it happened to me. My dad used everything I enjoyed as currency to get me to behave. Not even behave because I wasn't a bad kid, just do what he wanted.
I quickly learned to guard my feelings and what I became to him was an apathetic teenager that he didn't know very well. If he didn't know what I really enjoyed then he wasn't sure what to take away next. In some ways I think it's almost as bad as physical punishment. I look back at it 30 years later and still get hurt all over again. Don't make your child associate you with the loss of things that he loves.
You can use this tool as its very, very affective, but don't overdue it and set rules on what is offlimits to take away.
I honestly think it really depends on what it is. when people say physical displine i think that its when someone goes to far to hurt the child. but just a small spank i dont think its all that bad. i myself was abused in physical disipline so i try not to use that method unless its needed